Thursday, 18 March 2010

March 18th: Thorntons Milk Chocolate with Pistachio

Kcal 551 Fat 35.7g Fat(sats) 19.2g Carbs 49.3g (per 100.0g)

If you think back about a month or so to the end of last year you may remember that the Thorntons Milk Chocolate with Tonka Bean bar won a lot of praise in the end of year ChocolateMission 2009 Awards, picking up 3rd place for overall product of the year. Well the folk over at Thorntons were obviously pretty happy about this so they sent me along another chocolate from their award winning range, this time their Milk Chocolate with Pistachio offering. As a recent pistachio nut convert I was looking forward to seeing what Thorntons could do with this combination - surely they couldn't go wrong with a recipe of 'milk chocolate with roasted, salted pistachio nuts'.

Like all of the 'award winning' bars from this range Thorntons felt it ok to strip away 10.0g leaving us with 80.0g of chocolate (not quite as cheeky as the Tonka where they only give you 70.0g!). A quick glance at the packaging tells you that Thorntons appear to be running out of colours to use when it comes to this Square Bars range and with branding aside the outer box looked ridiculously similar to both the Tonka and Mint chocolates ... perhaps Thorntons could have done a 'premiuim line' with different packaging for the award winners!? Inside the chocolate looked and smelt good with the green coloured pistachios bringing a lovely savoury nutty smell and bit of interest in terms of aesthetic appeal.

Unfortunately for Thorntons all milk chocolate I taste from them from now on will be compared to the Tonka Bean bar. This 32% recipe was still tasty but it noticeably lacked the strength in the taste of the aforementioned with a slightly less pronounced cocoa edginess and honey influence. In the effort of trying not to be completely condescending the vanilla undertones were still pretty prominent and the lack of strength of the chocolate was somewhat made up for by the added pistachios. Much as the packaging suggested the nuts themselves brought hints of salt and savoury nut to the experience, though I do have again have to somewhat question the decision to chop them in to smaller pieces rather than keeping them as wholenuts. They were not as clumsy or annoying as hazelnuts can be when chopped (no bits getting stuck in teeth etc!) but I still feel the crunchy effect and savoury nut flavours explosions would have been grander had had they been implemented whole. Together the combination of sweet and salt worked very nicely but I had that nagging feeling it could have been executed just a little better.

Overall I would rate this as another pretty high standard offering from Thorntons but at the same time I wouldn't say it was one of the finest they have produced. Pistachio nuts themselves are not the strongest tasting nuts so I think their chopped nature in this bar came at detriment to the overall product. Perhaps manufactures think that consumers are of the mindset that 'more small bits' look like more in totality than 'fewer bigger bits', but I for one would rather see the latter if given the option of either/or. Criticisms aside pistachio chocolates aren't one of the most common flavours around so if you fancy trying it out for yourself you can do very little wrong opting to give this Thorntons offering a try. I don't think 2010 will quite be the year of the pistachio, like 2008 was for Chili but it would be interesting to see a few more manufactures give this nut a crack.

8.2 out of 10

31 comments:

David said...

I am ridiculously in love with pistachios at the moment. I haven't ever tried them in chocolate yet. This looks like a good place to start :)

Rachel said...

The nuts are shelled right?

Silly question but I hate having to shell them. For some reason or other it makes me cringe.

Rxxx

Nick said...

Pistchio has been used since like forever in confectionery in the far east. I agree it is a relatively new concept for us in the west. I expect it to really catch on.

Anonymous said...

I have a random one for you Jim. What is the best and worse product you have ever had from Thorntons?

I really like their macadamia dark chocolate, but I can't stand their turkish delight its horrible.

Maggs

Alex said...

So Thorntons continue to be up and down then do they?

I don't buy my chocolate from them a lot and mostly use them for gifting if I am honest. Now I mention it I can't remember the last time I bought something of theirs myself.

Lol imagine if the whole country did that and just bought one brand to just gift and never eat themselves. That suggests that it isn't good enough for them to buy lol.

Justin said...

I really don't like pistachios I am afraid. They are not my thing at all, I will just stick to hazelnuts I think.

Kim said...

Are you going to be reviewing any Easter things from Thorntons?

Richard said...

I still need to try this tonka chocolate you are always banging on about. It is about time I got around to buying it, I have been meaning to for ages now.

Tracey said...

ewwww no I hate pistachios. I can't understand why anyone would want to put them in chocolate. The salt that they have on them would upset the balance of the sweetness surely?

wouldn't it be a bit like trying to eat salt water?

Alan said...

I (along with my sister) have loved pistachio nuts since we were kids and my brother used to eat them! The shelling of them is a little tiresome but they are one of my favourite nuts. I must definitely try this :)

The only other Pistachio chocolate I've had is one that was in a Gordon Ramsay box of chocs, in the 'Dessert Chocolates collection' (which are seriously nice I have to say! - nothing like the usual 'dessert flavoured' suspects like Lily O'brien's say.

Duncan said...

I am still not totally convinced by these award stickers that Thorntons are putting on the front of their new bars?
I still don't get who decides who wins them. Is it at all possible they could have made up some awards just to trick people into thinking they are good quality.

Hannah said...

I think this is actually my favourite of all the Thorntons I've reviewed on my blog, but I like it better when the nuts are this mid size - I don't like it when they're too small to taste, but I don't like whole nuts either. For me, that makes the flavour less integrated! :P

So, you can keep all the Tonka ones, I'll have all these, okay? :D

Diane said...

Have you ever tried Thorntons' strawberry chocolate? It is really outstanding I am sure you would like it after reading your latest Crunky strawberry review.

Phil said...

Duncan, I haven't looked into it but I bought a pack of Twinings Earl Grey the other day that had a 'great taste gold 09' sticker on so it's not just Thorntons doing it.

I love pistachio nuts, they're so moreish. This would be an interesting bar to try. I did have a bar of swiss frey pistachio chocolate last year and remember it was very tasty.
I still haven't tried the tonka bean because I never actually set foot in a Thorntons store very often. Like alex I mostly only go there for gifting, mostly when I need to get something for my mum.

Resph said...

Jim please can I suggest that you review the antioxidant berry burst darkchocolate that they make. According to the webiste they think

that just a couple of squares of this delicious chocolate will help you feel better in both body and mind.

..... err I am not sure I believe it but it would good to see what you think.

Alan said...

That berry burst chocolate sounds nice - even if does sound like they got the descriptive tag line off a bottle of Radox bubblebath! Lol

Chocolate Reviews said...

Jim - why the hell do you have a downer on Thorntons?

If you actually turned up for the Thorntons trip then you would have found out that they offer lighter bars because some of the ingredients are considerably more expensive than others. Hence they would have to make a smaller bar to maintain the same price. Now if there are different prices per bar then you'd probably get some that would outsell the others due to the price and not personal relevance.

Anonymous said...

If they made a caramel variety chocolate block that would be awesome.

lol @ Alan. Berry Burst does sound more like a drink or a personal care product doesn't it. The way they are talking about it they are saying it is supposed to be good for your health which I think is a litte rich.

Lauren said...

@ChocolateReviews you need to leave Jim what is with people critising him over the two days.

I don't think he has a downer on Thorntons at all. For every negative review he writes about them (most of which are justified)there appear to be about three that are more positive.

How can you say he has being mean about about them when he gives them a good score?

Alan said...

Well, my sister has just kindly bought me this bar! :) We both like it very much, the pistachios aren't the strongest flavouring but still very tasty and a nice change from the normal nuts! We're buying a bar for our brother and sending it to him, its definitely his sort of bar too! :)

Pistachios should definitely be more used in chocolate bars!

Chocolate Reviews said...

@Lauren

Perhaps I didn't phrase it correctly. The beauty of reviewing is that we have different opinions. I just felt Jim should have asked why they were different sizes - he has the details of their PR team who sent us all some of their blocks.

David said...

Christ on a bike you idiot. He gave them a rating of over 80% if this is a guy with a grudge against someone I would like to see what he is like to them when he likes them.

Andrew said...

Pistachios are mega cool. I have to limit myself to how often I have them as once I open them I usually can't help myself.

Louise said...

You aren't wrong about this being tasty. I would say anyone that likes pistachios and milk chocolate on their own will be surprised how well they compliment each other when eaten at the same time. Sometimes the oddest mixutres of ingrdients work out really well, a bit like you with chocolate and chilli.
Forget what the naysayers spout Jim I find all your reviews to be accurates. I think that boy is obviosuly jealous of your site.

lottie said...

Oh my, everyone's getting rather upset. Relax people! Picture a baby dolphin..that's it. We're all chilled now, right? Marv.

I MUST go to a Thorntons (can't remember the last time I went! Stoneage prob)and see what's what in there. Now their slightly 'less premium'(dyu appreciate the tact?!) stuff has infiltrated all the supermarkets, you tend to forget that they keep all the good stuff in the actual stores.

Very soon I shall go. Especially since I haven't seen one of the EPIC lindt pistachio bars in forever. This looks a nice substitute!

Phil said...

@Andrew, I have the same problem myself! I believe part of what makes them so addictive is that you really have to 'work' to get at them. The best ones I've had so far are from Lidl, same goes for cashew nuts. Sorry, going a bit off-topic here lol...

Dom said...

Hey! You people are giving us professional chocolate bloggers a bad name! :)

Lee is right that the difference in weight is purely so they can use more expensive ingredients and keep the cost the same across the range. Yes, this is often a sneaky way of increasing prices, but in this case, I think it's a legitimate and justified way of being able to use more exciting flavours.

Jim said...

Wow so many replies .... PART 1

David

Indeed if you like pistchios and want to experiment with pistachio chocolate this would be a good place to look first.

Rachel

Haha yes of course they are shelled. They would be a choking hazard if not.

Nick

Omg what is that stuff you get from the Asian countries called? Not marzipan but ... wikipedia search .... baklava!! Thats the stuff.

Maggs

Worse - Those ghastly lovebirds
Best - Milk Chocolate with Tonka Bean bar.

Alex

Yep this was one of their better offerings lately. Apart from the brownies they were awesome aswell.

I don't tend to gift thorntons that much, but I used to in the past.

Justin

They aren't for everyone obviously - I love hazelnuts aswell.

Kim

Not at the moment. I haven't had anything from them yet.

Richard

I would seriously recommend it chap. It is one of my favourite milk chocolates ever. It is banned in the US still I believe - Tonka Beans if eaten by the truckload can cause blood thinning.

Tracey

I think the salt and sweetness contrast well with each other. It is nothing like eating salt water haha!

Some of the my favourite things (salted caramel chocolates) have salt in them.

Alan

I am pleased to see that this lived up to expectations. Your sister is obviously very good to you :D mine is just cheeky now and just swags all my samples ... haha only joking I do offer a lot of what I get sent to my family. Way too much to consume for just myself.

I should check out Gordon Ramsay's chocolate collection shouldn't I.

Duncan

These awards are legit don't worry. They look a little random on the front granted, but they are awarded by the Academy of Chocolate I believe. They are pretty prestigous industry wise ... so I believe anyway.

Hannah

After I finish responding to everyone here I am going to go have a read of your review. I see what you mean about the size of the nuts but I just love massive nut pieces ... maybe I am just taking a typical blokes attitude of bigger being better :D

Diana

I swear I had .. but I can't find it :S hmmm I will post again when I do find! Perhaps it just hasn't been posted yet. I remember having it in at one point becasue it was a limited edition.

Phil

Thanks for verifying that chap. Interesting to see Twinnings use it aswell isn't it.

Perhaps I shoulf try this Swiss Frey bar if it comes recommended.

Repsh

I love how companies try and pitch chocolate as good for us :D Nice request though I will see what I can do.

Lee

As I said on Twitter this site is just something I do in my free time ... thus I have a real job. As someone has said already how can a score of 8.2 be percieved as having a downer on someone?

Whilst what you say is probably true,you have to remember this is a businnes. Working in the industry I am willing to bet that Thorntons make a very healthy profit margin out of these bars. They had the choice of taking a hit on profit margin with the more expensive ingriedients and keeping the bars the same size, or do what they did - which was to decrease the size to maintain profit. I can see the sense from a business perspective ... but as a consumer that doesn't mean I have to like it.

Shhhh don't tell anyone I told you this but what Thorntons told you on your merry little factory tour might not be true ;)

Anon

A salted caramel block would probably be tremendous - I would jump at the chance to try that.

Lauren

Thanks - I don't think he meant it entirely like that though.... I hope he didn't anyway.

.... part 2 coming....

Jim said...

Andrew

Tell me about it - my latest moreish snack that I can't put down are roasted, salted soya beans! They are amazing.

Louise

I am glad you also enjoyed it. You are right sometimes the oddest combinations do work out for the best. Chilli and chocolate was unheard of until a few years ago ... well here in the UK it was anyway.

Lottie

Toys are indeed exiting prams at a very fast rate indeed :D it is all funny really.

My opinion is that if you want the best that Thorntons has to offer you defo have to go to one of their shops.

I had forgotten about that pistachio Lindt bar you are talking about. Ever since my local Whittakers tea shop closed down I have never seen it again. Shame huh!? I bet they still do it in Germany.

Phil

We all love a random tangent don't worry. Have you tried the Marmite Cashews? What about the Reggae Reggae peanut and cashews you can get in Tesco and JS?

Dom

See what I said to Lee above. I don't hold it against them at all - but they should make it more obvious on the front of the pack, rather than sneakily on the back.

Ho hum - I still fail to see how giving someone a score of 8.2 constitutes as holding something against them.

Thanks everyone - lets all be nice huh!?

JIM

Phil said...

Haha I had to laugh at all the toys out of prams business.

I'll try track those cashews down Jim, I've seen the marmite ones but the price put me off just a bit! I've heard they are very nice tho...

Donna C. said...

I love pistachios and I love chocolate. Don't think I ever had the two together before.

 

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